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More women are staying childless
« on: October 19, 2015, 10:14:08 am »
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/more-women-are-staying-childless

Erm. As if the decisions are just made by women. Blaming game again.

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 01:40:21 pm »
Nothing wrong with staying childless. The cost of living is insane unless you move to somewhere less developed like Thailand. But then again, can you survive there in the long run?

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2015, 08:49:17 pm »
Yeah. Having a child is a JOINT decision by a couple. Nowadays we work as hard as the men but still have to do housework and take care of kid. Husbands still don't help much because they say they are 'tired'.

Read somewhere that on average, women does an increase of 8 (iirc) hours of housework weekly after having children but men only increase by 1 hour.

Quality of life esp for a woman, really drops aft having kids la.

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2015, 10:21:30 pm »
It depends whether the women likes kids or not. If don't like kids, no point giving birth. Ended up kids will have to suffer


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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 12:59:03 am »
Giving birth and raising a child isn't easy. If SO says she wants to have a child or not I would just support her decision all the way. She happy can liao. The last thing I want is a wife with post natal depression  :(
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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2015, 08:25:50 am »
i'm not a big fan of kids.. too much trauma when i was a tutor yrs ago...
my SO was like me when we just started dating, then somehow suddenly few months after pak tor, he say he wants a family (which means must have kids la)
so bo bian lo, then confirm i must try ma, he also cannot give birth right...
but of course terms & conditions must state out black & white to avoid conflicts in future

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2015, 11:50:28 am »
i'm not a big fan of kids.. too much trauma when i was a tutor yrs ago...
my SO was like me when we just started dating, then somehow suddenly few months after pak tor, he say he wants a family (which means must have kids la)
so bo bian lo, then confirm i must try ma, he also cannot give birth right...
but of course terms & conditions must state out black & white to avoid conflicts in future

ermmmm .... what are the T&C's then? ???
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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2015, 12:00:18 pm »
ermmmm .... what are the T&C's then? ???

like he do the additional housework coz i dun do housework (cannot hire full time maid to help do housework because i dun like to stay with strangers)... and able to support the children coz i'm only able to support myself & 2 dogs.. and also have to hire me as nanny coz i will have to quit my job to look after the children. over my dead bodies i'm going to let ATB take care of my babies at infant care  :-X and of course i wun give up my dogs just because there is baby
« Last Edit: October 27, 2015, 12:02:54 pm by little hippo »

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2015, 12:06:16 pm »
like he do the additional housework coz i dun do housework... and able to support the children coz i'm only able to support myself & 2 dogs.. and also have to hire me as nanny coz i will have to quit my job to look after the children. over my dead bodies i'm going to let ATB take care of my babies at infant care  :-X and of course i wun give up my dogs just because there is baby

Wow. Ur hubby got T&Cs also?

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2015, 12:17:37 pm »
like he do the additional housework coz i dun do housework (cannot hire full time maid to help do housework because i dun like to stay with strangers)... and able to support the children coz i'm only able to support myself & 2 dogs.. and also have to hire me as nanny coz i will have to quit my job to look after the children. over my dead bodies i'm going to let ATB take care of my babies at infant care  :-X and of course i wun give up my dogs just because there is baby

the T&C's not so difficult for your SO mah ......  but what if he loses his job? :(
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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2015, 01:49:03 pm »
Wow. Ur hubby got T&Cs also?

arbuden.. every major steps i take, must let each other know what is our expectation so that both of us know what to expect.. we are not mind readers, so we cant really read into each other mind la...
plus i dun just anyhow step into the future blind-folded...
or else wait end up like those other ranting women "oh my husband dun do housework only shake leg in front of tv", "oh my husband dun bring in enough bacon & never support me", "oh my ming so ku, need to work, do housework and take care of kids"..

always eliminate all possible problems, then future will not have unnecessary problems.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2015, 01:53:05 pm by little hippo »

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2015, 01:50:10 pm »
the T&C's not so difficult for your SO mah ......  but what if he loses his job? :(

currently not difficult.. he is doing those t&c liao...haha...
if he loses his job then find another la.. singapore so many jobs, no need scare.. as long as you got the capability, you got the market.

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2015, 02:44:23 pm »
arbuden.. every major steps i take, must let each other know what is our expectation so that both of us know what to expect.. we are not mind readers, so we cant really read into each other mind la...
plus i dun just anyhow step into the future blind-folded...
or else wait end up like those other ranting women "oh my husband dun do housework only shake leg in front of tv", "oh my husband dun bring in enough bacon & never support me", "oh my ming so ku, need to work, do housework and take care of kids"..

always eliminate all possible problems, then future will not have unnecessary problems.

acceptance is key ......

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2015, 02:46:48 pm »
acceptance is key ......

ohmytoufu ..... mountain vege .... mountain vege ..... *tok tok tok tok tok*

before the acceptance, both parties also must say out their expectation ma.. if both parties do not know what they are getting into, how to accept? then when they realize cannot accept, too late, step into coffin aka wedding over liao..

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Re: More women are staying childless
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2015, 02:50:37 pm »
must see MIL too lei. later T&C ok. but MIL evil how. MIL must be include into the T&C