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My friend's hubby was recently punched by the old man in the said video after telling him that he held the lift for too long. When my friend confronted him, the old man further threatened with more punches while his son stood so close to her that touched her. His son further insulted her by filming her from top to bottom. The old man and his son then called for reporters and post on facebook & other social media platforms lying they were not at fault and cooked a story to accuse my friends. They are stressed up by this incident and the untrue comments. I am really upset as a friend and wish to help. Please also help to share to expose the truth of what actually happened. Thanks!


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After being punched why never report police and take out a private summon? ???
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oh, sound horrible. where did this happened
can give more details before we share this..

did u go to the police?

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After being punched why never report police and take out a private summon? ???

my friend did call for the police. while waiting for the police to arrive, the old man threatened with more punches.

sorry, i am not sure about the option on private summon.. you mean engaging a lawyer?


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oh, sound horrible. where did this happened
can give more details before we share this..

did u go to the police?

Yup, my friends did called for the police when the incident happened.

What happened was that my friends were waiting for the lift at level 1 at one of the blocks in punggol on 6 Jul (Hari Raya Puasa holiday). Someone held the lift at basement causing the people on level 1 to wait for a long time. My friend's hubby then called out "Hey" to the basement level hoping whoever holding the lift can release if they are not taking the lift.

Finally the lift came and my friends boarded. They didn't know it was the old violent man and his wife with their bulky items who were holding the lift earlier because the basement lift lobby is enclosed.

The old man's face was "black" and he started spouting nonsense at my friends. I believe he was unhappy with my friend's husband who shouted "Hey" earlier. When the old man reached his level, he pulled my friend's hubby out of the lift. My friend's hubby tried to pull himself away from the old violent man but the grab was too tight for him to free himself. The old violent man then gave my friend's hubby a punch on his cheek. My friends confronted the old violent man but he threatened to hit them again. His shouts alerted his son to come out from his unit. When my friend told the son that her hubby was punched by his father, he stood so close to her that he touched her lower body. My friend kept stepping backwards trying to get away from him but he kept inching forward and started filming her from top to bottom. He seriously looked down on woman as a weaker gender. My friends called for the police.

While waiting for the police to arrive, the old violent man started to turn the table against my friends, accusing them of bullying the old. He called for the reporters, claiming that my friends were the ones who find him trouble. He confidently told the reporters this will go to the headlines. He also tried to grab anyone that came out of the lift to be his witness though no one respond to him.

Little did my friends know that his son seized the opportunity before the police arrive by posting untrue stories of the whole incident onto facebook. Subsequently the old man also tried gaining sympathy by posting untrue stories claiming my friend's hubby is a coward who bullies the old and insisted my friends wanted to be famous. They continued spreading the untrue stories on various social media platforms.

It is clear that the old violent man and his son are the ones who wanted media attention by maligning my friends since they were the ones who called in the reporters and posted on FB so quickly. Because of these untrue posts, the public started criticising my friends badly but the fact is that they are indeed the victims who were being punched and touched.

All these nasty comments circulating on the web made my friends really stressed up and I hope we can do something to help them clarify the matter.

Thank you all!
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 01:19:02 am by twinkles »

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my friend did call for the police. while waiting for the police to arrive, the old man threatened with more punches.

sorry, i am not sure about the option on private summon.. you mean engaging a lawyer?
Normally if there are no serious injuries the police would ask you to settle this privately - commence civil action through lawyers.

It seems there were no injuries and i'm sure you would have got similar advice from the police.

Frankly a lawyer would be the best recourse if your frens were grieved by the situation.

Garnering incendiary sympathies online may not help your frens very much .... except assuage some of the anger on the injustice felt.

PS: we get it the first time that the old man is violent.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 07:51:06 am by beaverjuice »
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All these nasty comments circulating on the web made my friends really stressed up and I hope we can do something to help them clarify the matter.
Thank you all!

then all the more u have to ask your friend to ignore and move on. the sad thing is there are many trolls and keyboard warriors on the internet. they will just troll you and give all of u extra stress!!! :(
must learn to ignore and continue your life =)

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Actually, I think the best is to ignore the whole situation. No matter what is posted... seriously, it will only be a 3 day wonder on the internet. By spreading the stories etc, you will only extend the agony for your friend by continually pulling attention to the matter.

Finally, if you guys want to go for civil suit, then be prepared to pay for lawyers. Judge for yourself if feeding those sharks is worth the effort.

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i personally don't see any point blowing this up on social media. whatever that son posted, i guess it's probably too minor for people to care, or he doesn't have much friends to help him share......  8)
if that's really what has happened, (your friend merely 'hey' at them and the old man just went violent without any warning) then i agree that the old man was too much. but on 2nd thought, from level 1 to basement is just a flight of stairs, he could also have gone down to check what was actually going on below rather than just yelling from above.
many times, just a teeny weeny bit of grace and consideration could have avoided such petty arguments, don't you agree?
i don't know how hard the old man punched your friend's hb, but since your friend has already made a police report, then just leave it to them?
plus, you mentioned the son like touched your friend on purpose? did she file a claim on that as well? other than the old man punching the hb, i personally feel it's also very important that she file a claim against the son for intentionally touching her lower body.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 10:44:29 am by MiaMia »

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if they nvr do wrong, they will not care about these nasty comment. since we nvr see the vid make by the son, we cannot make our judgment too.

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i personally don't see any point blowing this up on social media. whatever that son posted, i guess it's probably too minor for people to care, or he doesn't have much friends to help him share......  8)
if that's really what has happened, (your friend merely 'hey' at them and the old man just went violent without any warning) then i agree that the old man was too much. but on 2nd thought, from level 1 to basement is just a flight of stairs, he could also have gone down to check what was actually going on below rather than just yelling from above.
many times, just a teeny weeny bit of grace and consideration could have avoided such petty arguments, don't you agree?
i don't know how hard the old man punched your friend's hb, but since your friend has already made a police report, then just leave it to them?
plus, you mentioned the son like touched your friend on purpose? did she file a claim on that as well? other than the old man punching the hb, i personally feel it's also very important that she file a claim against the son for intentionally touching her lower body.

and if they post untrue thing online, and it cause them distress, they can use the new regulation the harassment act again them. and since they son anyhow take video and if it is as per TS say degrading it can be consider sexual harassment. both party are at fault I feel. but sexual harassment again a woman should not be allow if what TS say it the truth. 

I feel la, if not carry bulky item, just lvl 2 to lvl 1 can just take the stair.

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and if they post untrue thing online, and it cause them distress, they can use the new regulation the harassment act again them. and since they son anyhow take video and if it is as per TS say degrading it can be consider sexual harassment. both party are at fault I feel. but sexual harassment again a woman should not be allow if what TS say it the truth. 

I feel la, if not carry bulky item, just lvl 2 to lvl 1 can just take the stair.

i don't think it was just lvl 2 to lvl 1 leh. TS nv say which floor the old man and his wife staying. they were carrying bulky items from basement up.

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i don't think it was just lvl 2 to lvl 1 leh. TS nv say which floor the old man and his wife staying. they were carrying bulky items from basement up.

TS's Friend can use walk down la and see what happen la since they can shout. old man carrying bulky item, he sure will use lift de ma, nan dao wan him to carry all the way up meh? and the flat only got 1 lift?
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 11:16:08 am by Piglet »

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TS's Friend can use walk down la. since they can shout. old man carrying bulky item, he sure will use lift de ma, nan dao wan him to carry all the way up meh? and the flat only got 1 lift?

i think they are waiting for lift to go up too. but then again, similar incident happened to me too when i was overseas and staying at my relative's apartment. waiting at level 1 and lift (yes only 1 lift because it only serves 2 units per level) was stuck at basement forever. i went down to check and found movers moving in big furniture. so i climbed 10 stories up instead.
but in sg i don't think will only have 1 lift....?

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I think the situation calls for "live and let live" bah ..... if every single thing buay song with each other then Singapore is in a worse shape than i thought  :(
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